Do RSAF have "" Python-4 "" missiles ?

sg1960 SG

The below is the information from SIPRI database - oct-04.

Recipient: Singapore
Supplier: Israel
Weapon designation : Python-4
Weapon description : BVRAAM
Year of order: (1997)
No. ordered: (600)
Comments: For F-5S and F-16 combat aircraft

No. delivered in 1997: 10
No. delivered in 1998: 50
No. delivered in 1999: 100
No. delivered in 2000: 100
No. delivered in 2001: 100
No. delivered in 2002: 100
No. delivered in 2003: 100

A few interesting " questions" are that

1. Why 7 years later that the delivery of the " 600 Python-4 " missiles is still not completed.

2. Why is the " Python-4 " missiles are classified as BVRAAM, same class as AMRAAM / Sparrow missiles.

3. Why order " many of the same missiles "?

4. Is this order real in the first place ?

For some time , have been wondering whether is this information accruate or not ?

So any public information to provide or disprovide the existence of the missiles would be welcome .

SibeiSuayKia SG

The reason why we ordered so many missiles is for...

in case, China decides to get real nasty..

sbst275 SG

Nope... RSAF has Python4

But against our naughty neighbour

SibeiSuayKia SG

Didn't know you need more then 600 missiles to shoot down 50 planes..

=/

sbst275 SG

Laughing
But it is against naughty ppl

sane_guy2 SG

Singapore’s military is not oriented toward an anti-china position, as some western analysts wrongly interpreted. Firstly, Singapore is not capable of fighting any major power, be it China, France, Russia, or whatever. Secondly, SIngapore’s population is mainly chinese, and are not interested in cooperating with the US in containing China. But Singapore IS interested in US presence here to counter, not chinese, but the Islamic majority in this region.

sidestep1984 SG

i wonder..out of curiosity…when training against drones…RSAF use the actual missiles too rite?

SibeiSuayKia SG

i hate it when pple corrects me..and the person turns out to be correct...
Crying or Very sad

Don't be surprised if Singapore becomes a islamic state ^^ for hundreds of years to come

Geforce3 SG

I believe its quite normal for such an highly expensive and sophistcated weapon to take more than 5 years to complete the full order. AS for why tis a BVRAAM, i have no idea Very Happy

LazerLordz SG

I would say Singapore will not stand by if China decides to be an expansionist state and encroach into S.E.Asia.We have a long memory of WW2, and any country that comes here uninvited and bringing oppression and unwelcome overtures will be met with a robust response.

SibeiSuayKia SG

hehe, provided china invasion stops just nice at johor..

LOL..

IMHO, I Rather have a chinese 50% 50% in S.E.A rather then to be sticking out like a sore thumb..with less then 3% Chinese in this Malay Archipelago even up til now..

Sure, we got a long memory of 1942...

Never forget , 1964, 1969, and 1998..

I don't trust chinese-china that much as well, they are even willing to kill taiwanese to achieve "unification"

It only shows that their unification stuff....

"Chinese should not fight chinese" <
after more then 5000 years of civil war

"Wo men bu shi dong ya bing fu" <<------ It means that china is not the sick man of asia...Who is the real sick person to pursue after 20 million people who are getting sick and tired of what you are saying everyday?

wd1 SG

Python 4 can loosely be called a BVRAAM because its max range (15-20miles) is, well, beyond what the eye can see. although since BVRAAM usually refers to longer-range stuff like amraam, the word to use is NBVRAAM, for "near-BVR".

the missile works together with the DASH helmet mounted sights in our Vipers. point and shoot!

SibeiSuayKia SG

Anyway...2 planes flying towards each other at Mach 1.5...

that means travelling towards each other...at such at enormous speed

that means the person only have less then 1 minute reaction time to fire

missiles...

touchstone_2000 SG

In a head to head engagement, the pilots have less than 10 s to make a decision, not 1 min.

Why 600? Planes get shot down you know? Attrition, life of the rocket motors etc etc Since you don't want all of the to EOL at the same time, you spread out as far as possible. Especially when you have a solid supplier relationship.

SG and Israel goes back donkey years. Can't say the same about the reliability of the Swedish govt, (not the suppliers fault).

nextdayagain SG

3. Why order " many of the same missiles "?

Better to have more missiles than using universal round ... bang! bang! bang![/b]

Fairyland SG

Question I have is;

How will these weapons be used if NGF goes to Rafale or Typhoon?

ah_kwang SG

just wondering... how come our air force has never acknowledged that we purchased python-4 missles? or maybe i did'nt notice their annoucement. But why are we always so 'shy' about buying military equipment. Like the spy satelite thingy a few years back inked with Israel and the Exocet missle inked with the french. It's always classified until some israel or french company accidentally leaked it to AFP or any other news agencies.

i'm sure i saw them on news bulletin somewhere. Correct me if i'm wrong about the satellite, python and the exocet thingy. And recently the harpoon fitted on Fokker 50s which had been classified info for some years until they official release the info this year.

Fairyland SG

I think the exocet deal is not really for missile but the design or transfer of technology.

U miss the Delilah decoy?

I wonder what's involved for the satellite? I think NTU is desiging the bus so maybe it's for the remote sensors probably optical and signals too?